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Bill Sykes' - In Retrospect V.
(January 2007)

Bill Sykes looks back in retrospect at material which has been published in previous editions of "View from America", in an attempt to determine whether the subject matter written then is still applicable in today’s world.

These observations have been extracted from Bill Sykes' News Letter "View from America". Mid-Summer 2005 Edition.

Article #5B

An imaginary conversation between an American father and his son.
As this story is fictitious, and concerns an imaginary conversation between a father and his college graduate son concerning questions the son has about America’s involvement in past and present wars, it behoves me to state that war is not a subject that should be discussed lightly and certainly should not be the subject of derisive comment.

Son: "How’s the war going Dad?"
Dear old Dad: "Which war son - the current war in Iraq, or Afghanistan, and then of course we have the threatened wars with Iran, Syria, North Korea, and China?"
Son: "The current war with Iraq of course".
Dad: "Well son, the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defence, the Secretary of State, and other officials tell us every other day that we are making headway against the insurgents, and we are making progress in installing democracy in both Afghanistan and Iraq".
Son: "If we are as they say, gaining ground against the insurgents, how come so many of our soldiers and Iraqi civilians are still being killed by the insurgents on a daily basis?"
Dad: "Wars aren’t won overnight son, unless of course you take into account the dropping of atomic bombs, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War Two".
Son: "Was that a good thing or was it a morally reprehensible act of vengeance by the United States for the Pearl Harbour incident?"
Dad: "You have to recognise that anything goes in war, and seeing that the dropping of atomic bombs by United States aircraft on two Japanese cities saved countless American and Allied lives then by all accounts these acts were justified even though it did kill a million or so Japanese civilians in the process".
Son: "Why did we go to war with Japan in the first place?"
Dad: Well, let me see. America really didn’t want to get into the war in Europe and so instead we entered into a "Lend/Lease" agreement with Great Britain where we provided them with money, weapons, ships, aircraft, and all the other accoutrements of war, so that they could be the prime defender of the faith and fight the war in Europe".
Son: "So it was the bombing of Pearl Harbour that got us into the Far East war?"
Dad: "Depending upon who you listen to, we were supposedly taken completely by surprise when Japan attacked Pearl Harbour on the 7th of December 1941 and Japanese aircraft and ships destroyed most of the American Pacific fleet. We immediately declared war upon Japan and at same time on the eleventh of December 1941 Germany declared war upon the United States and we were then committed to send American troops to fight the war in Europe".
Son: "So why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbour in the first place, and is that what really what really got us involved in World War Two?"
Dad: The reasons given by our government as to why Japan attacked the American fleet are vague to say the least, but it can be argued that the placement of an embargo by America upon the delivery of oil to Japan and freezing Japanese assets in America, maybe gave the Japanese a reason to retaliate".
Son: So America simultaneously went to war with Germany and Japan even though we really didn’t want to?"
Dad: "Yes son. Eventually with the help of Great Britain and other Allies, we won the war in Europe and we defeated the Japanese in the Pacific".
Son: "So what about all the other wars that we’ve been engaged in during the last sixty years, such as North Korea and Vietnam, to name but a few?"
Dad: "We freed the Korean people from Chinese and Russian communism, and also freed the Vietnamese people from a similar fate".
Son: "But didn’t the war in Korea divide the country into two nations with a demarcation line at the 38th parallel, and also didn’t we split Vietnam into two separate states, North and South Vietnam, and very soon after American Forces pulled out of Vietnam the South Vietnamese army capitulated and the North Vietnamese communist forces took over?
So, did we really win the war in Korea and in Vietnam, or just appear to win?"
Dad: "Well, with the help of our allies we won the wars in Europe and Asia, but unfortunately in other wars that we were in, (or are currently involved in), we won the war but lost the peace".
Son: "I seem to recall that we did a similar thing, (pull out when the going got really tough), in several other places such as Beirut, Mogadishu, Central America. Do you think that we will follow a similar pattern in Iraq?"
Dad: "No son, this is one war that we have to win, and we will win because our nation’s oil supplies depend upon establishing a democratic government in Iraq !!!"
Son: "So if we are helping people of other Muslim countries embrace democracy, why do so many people hate us?"
Dad: "I don’t think that they really hate us son, they just envy our democratic affluent life style".
Son: "Then why did they attack us on the 11th of September 2001, and continue to conduct terrorist acts worldwide against American nationals?"
Dad: "There are many violent people in this world who see America as an aggressor nation bent upon trying to force American type democracy and American type lifestyle onto Muslim nations. It would appear that the Muslims don’t wish to embrace either of those principals, and they certainly don’t wish to be seen as puppets of an American government".
Son: "So, do you think that I should volunteer to go and fight to defend the security of the United States and protect our oil interests?"
Dad: "If you were a National Guard volunteer and had been called for duty with the colours, then you would be obligated to meet your commitment and serve your country wherever your service was required".
Son: "But I didn’t volunteer for the National Guard dad".
Dad: "OK son. Without wishing to be tagged as being an unpatriotic American citizen, my answer in this particular situation is "Hell no son".  If it was a case of defending our shores from imminent dangers then every patriotic American should without question rally around the flag and serve their country to the last drop of blood. You have to recognise son that war is hell and too many young Americans are still being killed in the Middle East wars even though the war was declared by the Bush Administration to have been won at least a couple of years ago, and yet we really haven’t made very much post war progress in installing democracy in Iraq, or any other Middle East country for that matter".
Son: "So does this give me an out on this occasion for not going to war but still manage to retain my democratic principles?"
Dad: "That’s your decision son but in the current situation if ever this government re-institutes a conscription draft, which it may have to do in the near future in order to satisfy the people of America’s desire to get this disastrous war over and done with, perhaps you should consider travelling north of the border as your mother and I would prefer to have one live son in Canada than one dead son in Iraq or Afghanistan".

My comments:
Please remember that this is an imaginary conversation between two fictitious people and as such should not be misconstrued as being a discussion between a real American father and son. Although the above is a fictitious conversation, I’m sure that somewhere out there in these United States there are real live people with real live concerns about the safety of their sons and daughters who are serving gallantly in the Middle East wars, who may be espousing the same sentiments as this fictitious father

 Some very brief relevant information:
1) Pearl Harbour: During the period 1941/1942 Japan invaded South East Asia, The Dutch East Indies, Malaysia, and Singapore. As Japan had to import 90% of its oil products, its war efforts were badly affected when after their occupation of Vietnam in early 1941, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt placed an embargo upon the exportation of oil products to Japan and froze all Japanese assets in the United States. I would suggest that possibly this could be a major reason for Japanese warships and aircraft attacking Pearl Harbour on the 7th of December 1941. 
  
2) The war in the Far East: America apparently misjudged Japan’s warlike intentions, and when Japan invaded the Philippines, American forces were unprepared and forced to surrender on the 8th of April 1942. Corregador fell on the 5th of May 1942 and many American troops died on the infamous Bataan death march. British troops, who were badly outnumbered by the Japanese, fought courageously in Burma and on the Malaysian Peninsular to support America’s war against Japan, and also to protect British interests in that area. The British Forces were outnumbered by Japanese forces and were unable to retain control of British possessions in the Far East, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, and Rangoon, which also fell to the Japanese in February of 1942.

Many British military personnel and civilian employees were taken prisoner and ended up in slave labour camps were lack of food, malaria, and other tropical diseases took its toll and many did not survive the rigours of Japanese prison camps. The Japanese were notorious for their sub-human, uncivilized, and barbaric treatment of prisoners and often subjected them to unbelievable physical violence, horrific torture, and brutal beheading.
Japan achieved significant victories during this time period, but their victories came to an end between May and December of 1942 with the battle of the Coral Sea, the battle of Midway, and a series of bitter fought engagements off the Solomon Islands. American forces eventually got the upper hand in the war against the Japanese and defeated them at several locations before the final coup-de-grace when American bombers dropped atom bombs on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which ended the war in the Pacific.

 3) The Korean War: Fear of Russia occupying the whole of the Korean Peninsular, lead to a suggestion from President Harry Truman that the country be divided into two nations, North Korea and South Korea, with a demarcation line at the 38th Parallel.
In 1948 a Communist regime was formed in the North of Korea under Kim Il-Sung, and the Republic of Korea was formed in the South of Korea under Syngman Rhee. North Korean troops eventually crossed the 38th parallel and invaded South Korea on the 25th of June 1950. 
With the start of the Korean War, General MacArthur was ordered by President Truman to send American troops to assist the beleaguered South Korean forces. The American and South Korean troops forced the withdrawal of the North Korean army across the 38th parallel and advanced as far as the Yalu River on the border with China.
At this time the Chinese army crossed the North Korean border and forced the American/South Korean forces to retreat back to the 38th parallel.
General MacArthur was recalled by President Truman in 1952 and was dismissed on the basis that he had disobeyed orders from the President by advancing across the Chinese border.

Korean War truce negotiations began at the village of Kaesong, (which is located a short distance south of the 38th parallel), and were transferred to Panmunjom in October of 1951, were a truce was signed on the 27th of July 1953. 
An agreement was reached that a military demarcation line would be established at the 38th parallel and that the United Nations Military Command Commission would be based there. American troops are still stationed at the border after all these years.
I said that this was going to be a very brief description of relevant information, and as you can see, that is what it is - a very brief description of events that took place during the Korean, Vietnamese, and Far East wars.
 
To view the complete Mid-Summer 2005 edition please click HERE

Disclaimer:

Some of the information gathered for this newsletter is gleaned from American and International media sources, (including the Internet), and as such is quoted as accurately as possible. I try to obtain confirmation n on each subject from several outlets, so the text is a mixture of composite news items and personal comments and therefore the reader must make his/her own judgement as to the reliability and degree of accuracy of the subjects discussed.

We welcome feedback about any of the contents of these articles. Please send all correspondence to bill_sykes@huddersfield1.co.uk

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